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Podcast: Private credit redemption fears, liquidity traps and what investors need to know

Randy Schwimmer
Vice Chairman, Chief Investment Strategist
Randy Schwimmer podcast

The Private Capital Call podcast series hosted by Randy Schwimmer, Vice Chairman and Chief Investment Strategist at Churchilland author of the The Lead newsletter series features, conversations with top decision-makers in asset management, institutional and private wealth investing.

This week, we're joined by David Robinson, the James and Gail Vander Weide Professor at Duke University's Fuqua School of Business and Research Director of Duke Innovation and Entrepreneurship Initiative. An internationally recognized expert in private equity, venture capital, and entrepreneurial finance, his research has been featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times, and The Economist. He also advises the Swedish House of Finance, the Private Equity Research Council, and a range of private equity firms and technology startups.

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In this episode, David shares key takeaways from his widely read paper "Why is Private Lending So Popular" and challenges some of the most common misconceptions about how private credit really works. He breaks down how business development companies (BDCs) work, the regulatory constraints that shape their risk and return profile, and why retail investors are increasingly bumping up against liquidity limits in non-traded vehicles. David also addresses the redemption fears sweeping the market and why he believes the underlying fundamentals of private credit remain strong despite near-term turbulence. He closes with a forward-looking take on the potential inclusion of private credit in 401(k) plans and why, despite today's uncertain market environment, he sees careers in private markets as full of opportunity for the next generation.

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